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ABMP Podcasts for Massage Therapists & Bodyworkers

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Exploring the issues and challenges unique to the massage and bodywork community.

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In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Cal Cates about the lack of self-regulation training and how offering opinions can have a “silencing effect” on clients.

What is endometriosis, how did this client get it in her lungs, and—most importantly—can massage help with her signs or symptoms?

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin shares some of the lessons she has learned as a massage therapist, while Darren shares what he’s learned as a client.

A client has frequent ear infections, including now while he’s awaiting a prescription of antibiotics. He wants massage for his neck and shoulders. He has a history of a ruptured eardrum and several surgeries.

A client with a complex health challenge can benefit from a conversation between their massage therapist and their health-care team. But, a conversation isn’t the same as permission.

A client’s knee surgery seemed to go OK, but now he has a problem: his knee is stuck in 60 degrees of flexion. His doctors don’t seem interested in his diagnosis, leading him to wonder if anything will ever change.

The gluteus maximus is just like the rest of us—caught up in how society and the internet tells us we should look, think, and feel. Untangling this massive muscle from the interwebs takes a lot of introspection.

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with Tina Allen, founder of Liddle Kidz Foundation, about the differences between infant and pediatric massage, and why she created the Liddle Kidz Foundation.

A client is a former NFL linebacker with CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy). What is going on inside his head? And is it safe for the massage therapist to work with him?

Understanding the motor points of the neuromuscular system and their corollary—tonic acupressure points—increases efficiency in helping clients relax and deepen into a sense of calmness and well-being.

A client’s parent is a veteran of the Vietnam War, and the client has been left with the aftermath of the genetic damage caused by one of the deadliest toxins known: TCDD dioxin. Is there any way our work can help?

Doug Nelson discusses why we need to challenge not only our head and our hands—but our heart, how confirmation bias leads to struggle, and why we should pick our themes and not get lost in the details.