ABMP Podcasts for Massage Therapists & Bodyworkers

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Exploring the issues and challenges unique to the massage and bodywork community.

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Ep 35 – The “Ah-Ha” Moment with The Rebel MT Allison Denney

Allison Denney, The Rebel MT, joins the podcast to give us insight into what it means to be a rebel. From starting her wildly popular YouTube channel, to creating her own products, to building a brand, Allison lives up to the “believe in yourself” mantra. Her mission is to give MTs the tools to create their own paths and have the power to speak their voices.

Ep 30 – Logorrhea, or Patience and Presence with People with Communication Challenges, “I Have a Client Who …” with Ruth Werner

This episode tells the story of a client who is approaching the end of her life. Cancer metastasis to her brain has led to some language difficulties. We will talk a bit about oncology massage therapy, palliative care, CyberKnife surgery, and cerebral shunts. But the main lesson here is about patience and presence with people who have some communication challenges.

Ep 29 – Ask ABMP: Your Questions on Topics from COVID-19 to Body Mechanics to Intake Forms

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, experts in the field answer your most pressing questions, from COVID-19 protocols and precautions to body mechanics, intake forms, and more. We hear from authors and educators Ruth Werner and Eric Stephenson, and check in with ABMP’s Director of Government Relations Laura Embleton, Risk Management/Special Services Debbie Higdon, and President Les Sweeney.

Ep 28 – Can This Relationship Be Saved? “I Have a Client Who …” with Ruth Werner

In this episode, a client might be disappointed. A therapist is very concerned. And we don’t know what will happen next. When a “pinched nerve” that has been quiet for six months suddenly creates symptoms in the middle of a massage, what’s a therapist to do? We will talk about what could be going on here (including some fascinating things about nerve-generated pain) and what the best next steps could be.

Ep 27 – Surfacing Hidden Suffering with Massage & Bodywork Columnist Cindy Williams

Author and instructor Cindy Williams, LMT, talks about what happens when powerful emotions like stress, sadness, and grief become too uncomfortable to manage and get buried beneath the surface. How can massage therapists and bodyworkers recognize the signs of hidden suffering, and what can they do to assist clients in becoming conscious of the emotions stored in the tissues of their body?

Ep 25 – “The Client is Always Right … Really?” with Cal Cates and Kerry Jordan of Healwell

What happens when the client is “right,” but factually wrong? Cal Cates and Kerry Jordan of Healwell have some thoughts about the difference between the validity of a client’s experience and what the therapist knows to be scientifically and mechanically sound, and why it’s important for MTs to stay present throughout a session to remain attentive and curious so clients feel heard.

Ep 24 – Patent Foramen Ovale—“I Have a Client Who …” with Ruth Werner

A man has a stroke at age 35. He fully recovers, but is put on a lifelong prescription of anticoagulants. What is going on, and will he ever be able to receive the deep massage he wants? In this episode, Ruth looks at a common anomaly called patent foramen ovale. We discuss its connection to cryptogenic stroke (and we even dive into migraine for a hot second). Finally, we talk about the safety of massage therapy for clients taking anticoagulant drugs.


"Outside the Room:" with Brooke Riley, LMT

In this episode of Outside the Room, CG Funk is joined by licensed massage therapist Brooke Riley to discuss massage therapy career growth and industry evolution. 

Florida Extends License Renewal Date

Due to Hurricane Idalia’s devastating impact, license renewal deadlines have been pushed back for some professionals, including massage therapists and their businesses. Practitioners now have until October 2, 2023, to renew their professional and establishment licenses.



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Podcast: Smart Phone, Dumb Biomechanics

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Kristin and Darren speak with David Lesondak about how smartphones affect the biomechanics of neck tilt and ergonomic considerations people can take to avoid excessive smartphone-related neck tilt.

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