Comments on: Speak Up http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/speak-up Wed, 16 May 2012 21:37:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: the rev http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/speak-up/comment-page-1#comment-417 the rev Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:49:36 +0000 http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/?p=178#comment-417 I'm feeling like a soothsayer, Les. I am one that believes if one is not part of the solution, one is part of the problem. So few responses from so large a field has ALWAYS been the problem. The Amta and the ABMP have said that more than one half of their membership thought state licensing was the way to go. Rarely mentioned is the percentage of membership that respond when asked an important question. It really is no different than the big picture ie in some elections less than 20% of the voting public can swing a nasty agenda because of a low turnout. A MTBOK, considering the number of ways massage and touch can be learned and applied will be much more a WOI (Wealth of Information) that will be forged into a curriculum that will be taught by the schools. Much of that information will be material that is not necessary to lay hands as a practioner. Take a look at the O*Net where the writing is on the wall for what could become required information to enter the field. http://online.onetcenter.org/link/summary/31-9011.00 It is the educators (schools) that in the end will determine the BOK, not the practitioners. Because of your piece, I will reopen the document just to see what they are up to. Take good care! I’m feeling like a soothsayer, Les. I am one that believes if one is not part of the solution, one is part of the problem. So few responses from so large a field has ALWAYS been the problem.

The Amta and the ABMP have said that more than one half of their membership thought state licensing was the way to go. Rarely mentioned is the percentage of membership that respond when asked an important question.

It really is no different than the big picture ie in some elections less than 20% of the voting public can swing a nasty agenda because of a low turnout.

A MTBOK, considering the number of ways massage and touch can be learned and applied will be much more a WOI (Wealth of Information) that will be forged into a curriculum that will be taught by the schools. Much of that information will be material that is not necessary to lay hands as a practioner.

Take a look at the O*Net where the writing is on the wall for what could become required information to enter the field. http://online.onetcenter.org/link/summary/31-9011.00

It is the educators (schools) that in the end will determine the BOK, not the practitioners. Because of your piece, I will reopen the document just to see what they are up to.

Take good care!

]]> By: Darci D'Anna http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/speak-up/comment-page-1#comment-416 Darci D'Anna Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:16:18 +0000 http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/?p=178#comment-416 Medicine limited its holistic view in the process of "defining" it's expertise and setting limits on scope of practice. Cross-pollination in that arena is costly and formal, slowing down the process of learning. Compartmentalization. Perhaps this is why therapists are so reluctant to define themselves. Let's not make the same mistake or the same chaotic lack of public access to truth in healthcare. Medicine limited its holistic view in the process of “defining” it’s expertise and setting limits on scope of practice. Cross-pollination in that arena is costly and formal, slowing down the process of learning. Compartmentalization. Perhaps this is why therapists are so reluctant to define themselves. Let’s not make the same mistake or the same chaotic lack of public access to truth in healthcare.

]]> By: Les http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/speak-up/comment-page-1#comment-411 Les Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:30:08 +0000 http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/?p=178#comment-411 Thanks for your note, Paula. I'm sure at times it does feel like alphabet soup. There really are two primary professional associations (ABMP & AMTA); NCBTMB is a certifying body. While there is competition between AMTA & ABMP, we also work together on areas of common interest. The MTBOK is a prime example of this. What all the different organizations have in common is that they share a duty to serve the interests of the field and its members. The MTBOK is an important way we are doing that--in this case, that is the "professional umbrella." I feel strongly that there is a place for healthy competition; if it exists, ultimately the consumer (in this case the massage therapist) benefits. Thanks for your feedback. Regards, Les Thanks for your note, Paula. I’m sure at times it does feel like alphabet soup. There really are two primary professional associations (ABMP & AMTA); NCBTMB is a certifying body. While there is competition between AMTA & ABMP, we also work together on areas of common interest. The MTBOK is a prime example of this. What all the different organizations have in common is that they share a duty to serve the interests of the field and its members. The MTBOK is an important way we are doing that–in this case, that is the “professional umbrella.” I feel strongly that there is a place for healthy competition; if it exists, ultimately the consumer (in this case the massage therapist) benefits.

Thanks for your feedback.

Regards,

Les

]]> By: Paula Moerland http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/speak-up/comment-page-1#comment-410 Paula Moerland Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:04:00 +0000 http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/?p=178#comment-410 While I appreciate enthusiasm for my/our profession, I also admit confused dismay. I do not understand why we have three separate, major professional associations, and at least 3-4 separate, major research/knowledge databases (via AMTA, ABMP, NCTMB, TRI). It appears as though the profession is competing against itself, and I cannot handle keeping up with all three! I do my best to work with the science and medical community in mind, but I have my limits as I am sure we all do. Shouldn't we be forcing our leaders to work together, under one professional umbrella? While I appreciate enthusiasm for my/our profession, I also admit confused dismay. I do not understand why we have three separate, major professional associations, and at least 3-4 separate, major research/knowledge databases (via AMTA, ABMP, NCTMB, TRI). It appears as though the profession is competing against itself, and I cannot handle keeping up with all three! I do my best to work with the science and medical community in mind, but I have my limits as I am sure we all do. Shouldn’t we be forcing our leaders to work together, under one professional umbrella?

]]> By: Jan Schwartz http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/speak-up/comment-page-1#comment-406 Jan Schwartz Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:02:06 +0000 http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/?p=178#comment-406 Thanks for posting this, Les. You answered a question I had posted on Laura Allen's blog about what the field will do with this info. TBD is a good answer. The lack of response reminds me of what happened when COMTA was facilitating the development of the competencies for the curriculum standard. It was like pulling teeth to get feedback. It too was originally a very lengthy document, but it was critical that the Commission receive the feedback because COMTA's approval by the USDE was in many ways dependent on it--the USDE was the agency that told us we needed to do it! It's sad and discouraging that more people don't take the time to have their voice heard now, when it makes a difference. I can pretty much guarantee their voices will be heard after the fact! So to all massage therapists I say, hop to it. Take the time to define our profession now! Thanks again for the goose, Les. Thanks for posting this, Les. You answered a question I had posted on Laura Allen’s blog about what the field will do with this info. TBD is a good answer.

The lack of response reminds me of what happened when COMTA was facilitating the development of the competencies for the curriculum standard. It was like pulling teeth to get feedback. It too was originally a very lengthy document, but it was critical that the Commission receive the feedback because COMTA’s approval by the USDE was in many ways dependent on it–the USDE was the agency that told us we needed to do it!

It’s sad and discouraging that more people don’t take the time to have their voice heard now, when it makes a difference. I can pretty much guarantee their voices will be heard after the fact!

So to all massage therapists I say, hop to it. Take the time to define our profession now!

Thanks again for the goose, Les.

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