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		<title>By: The Rev</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schisms here.  Schisms there.  Schisms schisms everywhere.  I certainly feel like I am on one side of a great divide.  To Bok or not to Bok, that is the question.  

If I thought for one minute the BOK was not going to lead to something that was going to be beneficial to schools and other industry segments, rather than lead to be a burden for those looking into touching for income, I could bring myself to support it.  

Unfortunately, not one Amta effort has led to an easier less expensive way for a person looking to touch for income to do so.  

The BOK, I fear will be nothing more than a compilation of a WOI(wealth of information) that will be turned into a curriculum/template that will be imposed by law that folk looking to touch for income will be obliged to pay.  

Your NCE passing 1000 hour HBT&amp;HE that is not opposed to high standards but opposed to imposing those standards as law,  

The Rev</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schisms here.  Schisms there.  Schisms schisms everywhere.  I certainly feel like I am on one side of a great divide.  To Bok or not to Bok, that is the question.  </p>
<p>If I thought for one minute the BOK was not going to lead to something that was going to be beneficial to schools and other industry segments, rather than lead to be a burden for those looking into touching for income, I could bring myself to support it.  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, not one Amta effort has led to an easier less expensive way for a person looking to touch for income to do so.  </p>
<p>The BOK, I fear will be nothing more than a compilation of a WOI(wealth of information) that will be turned into a curriculum/template that will be imposed by law that folk looking to touch for income will be obliged to pay.  </p>
<p>Your NCE passing 1000 hour HBT&amp;HE that is not opposed to high standards but opposed to imposing those standards as law,  </p>
<p>The Rev</p>
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		<title>By: Carl W. Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl W. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a medical intuitive “muscle whisperer” the training I had dealt with learning muscles that most MTs never work with.  For each specific muscle you learn vary specific techniques for detailed myofascial release to muscle positioning.  You learn palpation assessment and differences between how healthy and otherwise muscles feel, you learn it from textural, emotional and energetic points of view.  You learn about genetic age and sometime even dietetic differences.  You learn about joints, nerves, blood and lymphatic vessels, organs and even how to find and heal problems within bones.  To do my work I have to be able to feel pain and discomfort in other people.  I have to sense things going on deep within a person that they don’t currently have medical tests to show and I have to be able to work with doctors and other therapist to coordinate help and complex issues.

When I studied Swedish I have to turn off my intuitive sensitivity because a lot of good Swedish is kinetic like dancing.  Good movement starts with you and not only does it protect you form injury but client’s can feel then strokes are done properly.  I found that as I moved the things I felt going on in the body were distracting and I had to learn to shut them out of my mind.  The anatomy was a breeze because I knew more than my teachers but I had learn it in a different way from massage school or my courses at college.  When I completed Swedish training I found that no only were my skills abated but my focus was wrong.  Being aware of myself as part of the therapy open me up to taking on the client’s problems and issues.  The deep tissue focus on how to go deep was also an issue because I found that if I though I knew how to fix things I would fail and my problem was learning how to back off and listen without thinking.  Swedish is dynamic and my work is very static.  Movement is at most stretches.

After the Swedish training it took me more than three years to unlearn it and get back on track.  

I also took a course in acupressure and again felt a conflict.  Yes I incorporate energy work but from a different perspective.  My anatomy go in the way if seeing things from a Chinese medicine perspective.  I grew up in a multicultural environment and realize that there are trade offs.  I never quite fit in anywhere but I had perspectives that people immersed in a single culture could not even imagine.

I think we need different standards for different types of bodywork.  Some modalities build on others and some may require mastering different sets on BOKs.  If I think of a stomach do I think of a digestive organ, do I think of how to treat a hiatal hernia, do I think of yin and earth or does what I learned in high school satisfy what I need to know to do my job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a medical intuitive “muscle whisperer” the training I had dealt with learning muscles that most MTs never work with.  For each specific muscle you learn vary specific techniques for detailed myofascial release to muscle positioning.  You learn palpation assessment and differences between how healthy and otherwise muscles feel, you learn it from textural, emotional and energetic points of view.  You learn about genetic age and sometime even dietetic differences.  You learn about joints, nerves, blood and lymphatic vessels, organs and even how to find and heal problems within bones.  To do my work I have to be able to feel pain and discomfort in other people.  I have to sense things going on deep within a person that they don’t currently have medical tests to show and I have to be able to work with doctors and other therapist to coordinate help and complex issues.</p>
<p>When I studied Swedish I have to turn off my intuitive sensitivity because a lot of good Swedish is kinetic like dancing.  Good movement starts with you and not only does it protect you form injury but client’s can feel then strokes are done properly.  I found that as I moved the things I felt going on in the body were distracting and I had to learn to shut them out of my mind.  The anatomy was a breeze because I knew more than my teachers but I had learn it in a different way from massage school or my courses at college.  When I completed Swedish training I found that no only were my skills abated but my focus was wrong.  Being aware of myself as part of the therapy open me up to taking on the client’s problems and issues.  The deep tissue focus on how to go deep was also an issue because I found that if I though I knew how to fix things I would fail and my problem was learning how to back off and listen without thinking.  Swedish is dynamic and my work is very static.  Movement is at most stretches.</p>
<p>After the Swedish training it took me more than three years to unlearn it and get back on track.  </p>
<p>I also took a course in acupressure and again felt a conflict.  Yes I incorporate energy work but from a different perspective.  My anatomy go in the way if seeing things from a Chinese medicine perspective.  I grew up in a multicultural environment and realize that there are trade offs.  I never quite fit in anywhere but I had perspectives that people immersed in a single culture could not even imagine.</p>
<p>I think we need different standards for different types of bodywork.  Some modalities build on others and some may require mastering different sets on BOKs.  If I think of a stomach do I think of a digestive organ, do I think of how to treat a hiatal hernia, do I think of yin and earth or does what I learned in high school satisfy what I need to know to do my job.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Seelye</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Seelye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You, Les, for making such sound statements. I have been practicing massage in Michigan off-and-on for 20 years. Most of my education has come from other massage therapist tutoring while exchanging massage and from my clients bodies. I am an avid reader about massage and continually update my knowledge with everything I can find. What I find disturbing is that I have recently had several massages by just graduated students (from the 1000 hr. plus programs) who&#039;ve passed their NCBTMB exams who give really poor massages. I think before there is too much more money tossed away on tests and such, we need to have students work with established therapists (much like interns &amp; residents) so that before they are unleasehed on an unsuspecting public, they have achieved a higher degree of touch experience. A good therapist knows when someone else has the &quot;touch&quot; and it seems to me to be a better way to achieve a general standard than what currently exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You, Les, for making such sound statements. I have been practicing massage in Michigan off-and-on for 20 years. Most of my education has come from other massage therapist tutoring while exchanging massage and from my clients bodies. I am an avid reader about massage and continually update my knowledge with everything I can find. What I find disturbing is that I have recently had several massages by just graduated students (from the 1000 hr. plus programs) who&#8217;ve passed their NCBTMB exams who give really poor massages. I think before there is too much more money tossed away on tests and such, we need to have students work with established therapists (much like interns &amp; residents) so that before they are unleasehed on an unsuspecting public, they have achieved a higher degree of touch experience. A good therapist knows when someone else has the &#8220;touch&#8221; and it seems to me to be a better way to achieve a general standard than what currently exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernadette Della Bitta</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernadette Della Bitta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Les for some wise words that I support. I feel we need to work together to improve massage education standards and agree on them before we can claim to have anything to certify! Hopefully MTBOK will bring us together toward that goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Les for some wise words that I support. I feel we need to work together to improve massage education standards and agree on them before we can claim to have anything to certify! Hopefully MTBOK will bring us together toward that goal.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Schwartz</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Les.  I am no longer certified because the certification has no meaning. It requires 700 hours to be licensed in AZ and 500 to become certified--backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Les.  I am no longer certified because the certification has no meaning. It requires 700 hours to be licensed in AZ and 500 to become certified&#8211;backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel Bistas</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuel Bistas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-309</link>
		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I to became nationally certified under the grandfather claus.  I beleive it is another way to make money.  The required Contact hours should be enough for you are advancing your own career.  I specialize in Medical Massage and being nationally certified does not make any difference to the insurance companies if they pay you or not.  I am paying for City (6 months) County (6 months) and State Lic.(yearly, adding it is already hard to pay for all required elements without adding something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I to became nationally certified under the grandfather claus.  I beleive it is another way to make money.  The required Contact hours should be enough for you are advancing your own career.  I specialize in Medical Massage and being nationally certified does not make any difference to the insurance companies if they pay you or not.  I am paying for City (6 months) County (6 months) and State Lic.(yearly, adding it is already hard to pay for all required elements without adding something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hinkle</title>
		<link>http://www.abmp.com/les-sweeney-blog/certifiable/comment-page-1#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hinkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Les, you are 100 percent correct. I fear NCBTMB will lose a lot of their active membership following their present path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Les, you are 100 percent correct. I fear NCBTMB will lose a lot of their active membership following their present path.</p>
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